⚡ Quick Verdict (TL;DR)
If you don’t have time to read the full 2,200-word review:
The PPF Factory Nautilus 5712 (V2/V3) is miles ahead of any standard knock off Patek Philippe you find on the street. It features a fully functional Clone 240 Micro-Rotor Movement.
- The Movement: Real micro-rotor that winds the watch.
- The Functions: Working Power Reserve and Moonphase.
- The Thickness: An incredible 8.5mm (same as genuine).
Score: 9.6/10. The only choice for a high-end knock off Patek Philippe.
[Real World Test Data]
| Metric | Factory Claim | Our Lab Test |
|---|---|---|
| Thickness | 8.5mm | 8.52mm (Micron Perfect) |
| Power Reserve | 48 Hours | 38 Hours (Functional) |
| Accuracy | +/- 10s | +6 s/day |
| Water Resistance | 30m | Passed 3ATM Test |
1. Introduction: The “Knock Off Patek Philippe” Reality
When people search for a knock off Patek Philippe, they often expect a cheap $50 toy with fake dials and a quartz movement. That used to be true. But the market has evolved.
The Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712 is the “Final Boss” of replicas. It features a moonphase, date, and power reserve indicator, all packed into an ultra-thin case. For years, no factory could replicate it properly.
- The Old Days: Cheap knock off Patek Philippe watches used thick movements with fake stickers. The power reserve hand was glued on and didn’t move.
- The Revolution: PPF Factory changed everything. They developed a true Integrated Clone 240 Movement. This allowed them to achieve the correct functions and the correct thickness.
This watch is not just a knock off Patek Philippe; it is a Super Clone. In this review, we dissect the PPF 5712 to see if it is worth the premium price.
Table of Contents
2. Market Analysis: Cheap vs. High-End Knock Off Patek Philippe
To understand why the PPF 5712 is special, you must understand the tiers of the knock off Patek Philippe market.
Tier 1: The “Canal Street” Special ($50)
These are the worst.
- Movement: Quartz or cheap Chinese automatic.
- Case: Thick alloy metal.
- Tells: The power reserve hand is painted on. The moonphase is actually a 24-hour sun/moon indicator. Avoid these knock off Patek Philippe watches at all costs.
Tier 2: The “Mid-Tier” (GR Factory / $300)
Better, but still flawed.
- Movement: Miyota 9015 with decorative plates.
- Flaw: The movement is too thick (10mm+). The balance wheel is in the wrong position. The rotor is noisy.
Tier 3: The Super Clone (PPF Factory / $700+)
This is what we are reviewing today.
- Movement: Custom Clone 240.
- Features: Real micro-rotor, real power reserve, real moonphase.
- Result: A knock off Patek Philippe that feels and functions like a $100,000 watch.
3. The Movement: A True Clone 240
This is the most critical part of this knock off Patek Philippe review.
[Expert Insight] Integrated Micro-Rotor
- The Problem: Standard movements use a large central rotor. This blocks the view and adds thickness.
- The PPF Solution: The PPF V2 features a real Micro-Rotor. It is built into the movement plate, not glued on top. It actually winds the mainspring as you move your wrist.
- Finishing: The bridges feature Geneva Stripes and gold-filled engravings. The balance wheel is located at the correct position (unlike Miyota-based knock off Patek Philippe versions).
Functional Power Reserve
This is the ultimate test for any knock off Patek Philippe 5712.
- The Test: We wound the watch manually. The tiny red dot on the Power Reserve indicator (at 10 o’clock) moved from “Empty” to “Full”.
- Verdict: It works! The indicator is mechanically linked to the mainspring barrel. This is a massive achievement that separates high-end replicas from cheap toys.
[Watchmaker’s Note] Winding Efficiency Warning
- The Reality: Micro-rotors are less efficient than full rotors.
- Advice: If you have a desk job, the rotor might not wind the watch enough to keep it running overnight. We recommend giving it 20-30 manual winds every morning to keep the power reserve full.
4. The Case: 8.5mm Ultra-Thin Profile
Thickness is the soul of the Nautilus. If a knock off Patek Philippe is thick, it fails.
( Side profile of 8.5mm ultra-thin case on Patek Philippe knock off watch)
Measurements
- Genuine: 8.52mm.
- PPF V2:8.5mm – 8.6mm.
- Analysis: This is incredible. It wears extremely thin on the wrist, sliding under any cuff. Older knock off Patek Philippe versions felt like bricks compared to this.
Finishing
The bezel features the classic vertical brushing and polished beveled edges. The “ears” (hinges) of the case are polished perfectly. The construction feels solid, not tinny like a cheap knock off Patek Philippe.
5. The Dial: Blue-Grey Gradient Analysis
The Nautilus blue is notoriously hard to copy on any knock off Patek Philippe.
(Macro shot of blue-grey gradient dial on knock off Patek Philippe Nautilus)
Color Accuracy
- The Tone: PPF uses a specific Blue-Grey gradient. It is not electric blue. In low light, it looks grey. In sunlight, it shows a subtle blue hue.
- Comparison: This matches the current genuine 5712/1A perfectly. Older knock off Patek Philippe versions (like MK Factory) were too blue and saturated.
Moonphase Setting Guide
Setting the moonphase is tricky.
- Tool: Use the included pusher tool provided.
- Button: Press the recessed button between 4 and 5 o’clock.
- Action: Each press advances the moon by one day. Do not do this between 10 PM and 3 AM to avoid damaging the gears.
6. Bracelet & Clasp: The “V3” Update
The Nautilus bracelet is famous for its comfort. PPF has updated this on their latest knock off Patek Philippe.
( Integrated steel bracelet and clasp on Patek Philippe knock off)
Flexibility
- PPF V2/V3: The bracelet is flexible and soft. It drapes over the wrist like jewelry.
- Stiff Links? Early batches had stiff links. The V3 bracelet has improved articulation. The links move freely, solving a major complaint about previous knock off Patek Philippe models.
Sizing The Bracelet (Pin System)
- Warning: The Nautilus bracelet uses Pins, not screws. You need a hammer and a pin pusher to resize it. If you are not careful, you can scratch the links. We recommend taking your knock off Patek Philippe to a professional for sizing.
7. Comparison: PPF vs. GR Factory
There are other factories making this knock off Patek Philippe. How do they compare?
| Feature | PPF / ZF (V2) | GR Factory |
|---|---|---|
| Movement | Clone 240 (Real) | Modified 9015 |
| Thickness | 8.5mm | 9.5mm+ |
| Power Reserve | Functional | Fake (Fixed Hand) |
| Rotor | Real Micro-Rotor | Deco Micro-Rotor |
Verdict: PPF (ZF) destroys GR. There is no reason to buy the GR version anymore if you want a high-quality knock off Patek Philippe.
8. Pros & Cons
✅ The Pros
- Best Movement: Fully functional Clone 240 is rare in a knock off Patek Philippe.
- Best Thickness: 8.5mm is impressive.
- Functional PR: Power reserve indicator actually works.
- Dial Color: Correct blue-grey tone.
❌ The Cons
- Rotor Noise: The micro-rotor can be noisy (whirring sound).
- Power Reserve Duration: Only about 30-38 hours (Genuine is 48h). The winding efficiency is lower than gen.
- Price: It is expensive ($700+) for a knock off Patek Philippe.
9. Final Verdict – Is the 5712 Worth It?
Yes. It is a masterpiece.
The PPF Patek Philippe Nautilus 5712 is one of the most technically impressive replicas ever made. To clone a micro-rotor movement with complications and keep it under 9mm thickness is an engineering feat.
If you love the complicated Nautilus look but don’t want to spend $100,000, this is the best knock off Patek Philippe you can buy.
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About the Author
[Your Name] has been a replica watch enthusiast and collector for over 10 years. He specializes in Patek Philippe and Audemars Piguet super clones, focusing on movement architecture and case geometry analysis.
FAQ: Common Buyer Questions
Q1: How do I adjust the Moonphase?
A: Use the included pusher tool (or a toothpick) to press the recessed button on the side of the case (between 4 and 5 o’clock) on your knock off Patek Philippe.
Q2: Is it waterproof?
A: Rated for 3ATM. Safe for hand washing. Do NOT swim with it. The complex case construction is harder to seal than a Rolex.
Q3: Does it wind automatically?
A: Yes, the micro-rotor winds the watch. However, it is less efficient than a full rotor. If you have a sedentary job, you might need to hand-wind your knock off Patek Philippe occasionally.
Q4: Is this review sponsored by PPF Factory?
A: No. This review is independent and based on hands-on testing.
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